Wonder what naive Sohkar will do when wallstreet bloodsuckers steal his retirement savings. Dude is freaking out over $20? Hopefully he sees a mental health professional. Real life is far more ruthless and mean then eve online could ever be.

And to everyone else who thinks that people who play EVE should all harden the f*ck up and all be emotionally stable super soldiers:

This might be a good time to point out that EVE Online is rated PEGI 12 and that children younger than 12 are actually allowed to play with their parent's consent.

Now imagine Erotica pulling this sort of bullsh*t on a 12 year old kid that is about as emotionally stable as a house made of sand and who may already be dealing with enough bullying in their real lives.

And regardless of that, I think it's absolutely repulsive that certain people around here believe that Erotica's behavior (or any bullying behavior within EVE) should be classed as 'normal and to be expected within EVE'.

do you people ever sleep?

Well it would be one thing if I was only a troll, it's another that all lawyers may, by some be perceived as trolls

"We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions."

-A mister Ronald Regan.

I hope Erotica and Bonus Room participants don't live in America

THIS GAME IS MISERABLE AND IS ABOUT MISERY AND GIVING MISERY. WEATHER YOU ARE BEING A MISERABLE MINER AND INFLICTING MISERY ON YOURSELF IN AN ASTROID FIELD OR YOU ARE AN ELITE PVPER INFLCIITNG MISERY ON YOUR EMENIES IN A GATE CAMP OR SCAMMING PEOPLE IN JITA THE HOLE GAME REVOLVES AROUND MISERY.

MISERY IS GOOD. SUFFERING IS GOOD. TRYING TO POLICE THIS IS BAD. DON'T BE BRAINWASHED INTO PICKING UP YOUR BITCHFORKS BY RIPARD TEGS.

That is the point. Some people hate the goons, other love them, many people honestly couldn't care less, however when it comes to scamming and the whole HTFU, the goons are by far top of the pile.

Yet even the goons, the guys who have taken scamming to whole new level, even they find what E1 does wrong, kicked him and banned him.

That should tell you something about E1's actions.

So why didn't the CEO of Widot tell everybody to get lost and refuse to kick E1?

E1 has stated that he was never kicked, he left of his own accord, Mynnna is saying he was kicked.

So taking what you have said, A high Level Director has gone to the CEO of Widot, told to kick him and they must of agreed otherwise E1 would still be a member.

Or of course he could of just been told by his CEO that he was getting kicked and then rushed to claim he was leaving just before the boot hit him on the ass

Ya gotta wonder why CCP spends so much money flying spaceships when all the place really needs is whips, chains and that damned captains quarters remodeled, Oh and seamed stockings, gag balls instead of whatever those eye implants are called and maybe some thousand dollar rubber pants.

Nope :)

But seriously, TS is not some magical removed from the world lawless wild west where you can do anything your sadistic little heart requires. All action carries responsibility and consequences.

Ask a guy to sing for his ship? Fine.
2-6hrs of it? Wtf is wrong with you?

And btw, if you don't like any of this, you are free to leave at any time :)
Nobody is forcing you to stay, right?

(and yes, emoticons added to intentionally aggravate. is it working? well, you can leave! :)

I keep making this "outside of EVE=cannot be policed" statement, and I realise some of you just might not understand what I'm talking about. I'm going to whip out muh smrts here, and see if I can't explain


Two important concepts when dealing with information. Authentication and Non-repudiation. Authentication says "I'm allowed to access this data". Non-repudiation says "I am who I say I am.".

In this context, CCP has non-repudiation on exactly one thing. Access to it's services. When I log on to CCPs services (or visit fanfest), CCP knows that LAF is me. The second I leave CCP's services, I now have repudiation of identity. LAF on tumblr may not be me. LAF on facebook may not be me. LAF on SA.com may not be me. CCP doesn't know. Even if I come right out and say "LAF on Facebook and EVE are the same person", CCP *STILL* does not know, legally, if it's the same person.

The EULA is a legal document. It has to be looked at from a legal standpoint. A ban is a legal action taken to terminate the contract. If CCP takes action on an account based on a third party set of information, they are taking the risk that the account holder will turn around and say "That's not me". That would be...quite the snafu. IIrC, Linden lab, the Secondlife owners, used to take action on accounts via third party information, and they got nailed in court for it.


I'll give a mildly outlandish example. Lets just say Ero gets banned. He takes it to court. All Ero's lawyer has to do is say "CCP, what proof do you have that the voice on that recording is actually my client's?"

Lets say I get banned, because CCP really doesn't like the posts I make about Dust 514 on my blog. I take it to court, my lawyer says "CCP, prove that the person who maintains that blog is also my client."

It's that simple.